Friday, 20 November 2009


Radio NZ has leaked papers show that Maori are wanting a treaty type deal over forest plantings.

Remember all this against a backdrop of legal advice that shows that iwi are standing on the head of a pin over their claims that the government didnt tell them about the ETS when they negotiated the treaty settlements over a decade ago.

Considering that the ETS has only been around as a concept for about 7 years its crap to think that it would have come up in negotiations.

So we think this is a bloody barmy idea. It will incense other iwi who miss out and rightly so. And why should iwi commercial interests be treated any differently than any other commercial interest???

Carbon news also appears to have the insiding running on the political machinations surrounding the ETS

According to Carbon News;

The Maori Party is deeply divided over changes to the emissions trading scheme – but wont split its vote on the issue.They reckon that three of it's five MP's don't support it but they will still back the legislation.. and are likely to file a Minority report and they say

they say that the Maori Party dont like the current scheme, introduced by Labour because, it didnt go far enough in cutting greenhouse gas emissions.
Apparently they have got some concessions like

protecting low-income families from rising energy costs as a result of the scheme, the shifting of the allocation of free carbon credits from fishing boat owners to quota holders, and the inclusion of references to the Treaty of Waitangi in the ETS.
Carbon News also reckons the Maori party pushed hard at the select committee forcing 5 days of deliberations instead of the one the govt had reckoned on.
MP's Rahui Katene and Hone Harawira are at odds with the rest of the MP's.

Carbon news says if these two voted against it , it would prevent the bill going ahead.

Yip this issue has all the hallmarks of a grade A cluster f**ck.


alex Masterley said...

And why should any interest be treated differenlty, be it pakeha or iwi, whanau, etc miss out on a concession regarding ETS?
We are all in the same boat so treating any one interest differently will only cause further grievance.

Cactus Kate said...

"three of it's five MP's don't support it but they will still back the legislation".

Awesome. So anotehr case of "buy a vote".

I know Maori count differently to us other folk. Do Pita and Tariana's vogtes count twice each or something?

Cactus Kate said...

BB this is getting utterly stupid

"The Maori Party is representing iwi interests and is concerned about protection for iwi-owned forests under the scheme.

Documents obtained by NZPA show the iwi leaders group involved in the negotiations wants:"/

Now exchange it with this commercial scenario

"The ACT Party is representing the Business Roundtable and is concerned about protection for big business-owned forests under the scheme.

Documents obtained by NZPA show the Big Business groups involved in the negotiations wants:".

So it is okay when Maori are doing bidding for their large corporate interests (Iwi) and holding the government to ransom, but politically untenable in the eyes of people if ACT were say bidding directly for the BRT and holding a government to ransom.

Sally said...

Why won't the politicians who are meant to represent the people admit that this whole global warming modelling is a scam. For the Maori Party to support National's shonky bill with the latest revelations will be IMHO treachery.

Yesterday news broke that the IT systems of the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been hacked.

"An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertised an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents"

Comments such as “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.”